Wednesday, October 29, 2008

Response to a Comment on the "Rape Article" post

I was looking over my comments that i have recieved in the past week and came across this one. It was in reference to the article about the judge in Nebraska banning words like "rape","assualt" and "asslient" in a rape case. Here is the comment :



" AwkwardMorning said...
Do you know what the facts from the case even were? Or did you just hear that the words were banned. Your comments infuriate me. So just because she woke up next to the man means that she was raped. When she said stop did he not stop. It was here fault for making such bad decisions. She should have known her limits. Or not have left with the man. The witnesses did not say she left unwillingly. She should not have left with the man in the first place. He might have been dunk out of his mind as well. She could have suggested the sex and not him. But she cannot remember.

What is his story? Here is a reasonable story.Well this girl really came on to me. She suggested we go back to her house and get it on. She was crazy for me. Then she rolled over and saw her boyfriend’s picture who is away in Iraq fighting for the US. She then became sick and asked me to stop and to leave so I left. I guess that hoe feels bad for herself and just wants to file rape charges to get me in trouble so she has something to tell her boy when he gets home. I didn’t know she even had a boyfriend until she showed me the picture. I felt ashamed for her and myself. I hope that hoe gets dumped for cheating.There you see how the story changes from rape to a lonely women looking to have sex. She could have easily raped him. It was her word against his. When she said stop he stopped and that’s that.Thus should not be rape. Unless there was more to the story like if he slipped her a pill which he did not. She went willingly and just stated she couldn’t remember to save her the embarrassment. She should have not put herself in the situation in the first place and that’s the truth.
October 23, 2008 11:34 PM"



Now i would just like to say a few things in response:



1) Did you read the article? Because I did and not all details were enclosed since the case is still ongoing. While you state that if he stopped when she said stop it isnt rape, well she didnt have a chance to say stop from the begining. Also you do not know for a fact that he didnt slip her a pill, or something else in her drink. It is a real danger for woman whether they are out alone or in groups.



2) I feel that your comments about knowing her limits and not leaving with the man are insensitive and unnecissary. While i agree she should watch her intake of Alcohol that doesnt give a man the right to do what she claims he did. Just because she is vunerable doesnt mean he should pray on her. I aslo would like to comment on you calling her a "hoe". That is degrading to any woman and inappropriate for this kind of converstation. Think if this woman was your sister, mother or friend. How would you feel then? Would she still be a "hoe"?



3) While i agree with you that the story could have happend differently then she is saying, however we dont have all the facts, just the ones released. And while i can see you want to maintain his innocence, 2 other women, in no relation to this woman, have come foward to say that the same things happend to them. So i would say the common denomenator is...him.



And 4) while using this article and expressing my opinions i did not say that he was guitly, that she wasnt involved. I simply stated that i disagree with words being banned because the judge thinks they will bias the jury. It doesnt give her an accurate way to portray how she felt in the situation.



While i dont mean this to be angry i was really upset and hurt by this comment. while women are already considered a lower class then men, now we can openly call women we dont know, in a situation we dont know about, a hoe? And on top of that, in a women studies class? Isnt that what we are working against? I feel really strongly about this issue, having known people who have been raped and had to go through an experiance like this. It is a he said/ she said type of deal. And the evidence will bring a conclusion. I would just ask that we be a little more sensitive and understanding then jumping the gun and making statements like these.

1 comment:

AwkwardMorning said...

1) Yes I read the article and you are right all the facts are not in there. So in fairness you should not be bias to one side. I considered both sides and not let myself be shocked by the language. Also how do you know she wasn’t the one who suggested the sex? Just because it was a man means that he suggested it right.

2) The law does not look nor should it look at feelings. Just the facts and then provide a fair judgment for both sides. Sorry if I come off as insensitive and unnecessary. All I am saying is that she put herself in the situation. Her main argument to me is like saying sorry officer I was too drunk to realize I was drinking and driving.
I also bring up the FACT that it could have been her idea and not the man’s.
I also just used the term hoe because I was trying to convey a story about a stupid man who was giving his testimony.
And if it was the situation I was talking about. Like my sister, mother or friend was cheating on their loved one. Then yes I would call her a hoe among other things.

3) Well how do you know the man wasn’t drunk out of his mind? I know A LOT of women who get very aroused when they drink and actively look for men for the night. So it only matters that she was drunk.

4) And I don’t see what the problem is if the words were banned. If she was raped then she shouldn’t have a problem displaying her case. Sure if gives a few hoops to jump threw but justice will be served. The words have very negative meanings anyway. And can easily be used to provide a negative atmosphere. How would you feel if your brother, father or friend was in such a case and was innocent. Yet because these words were used they swayed the jury into declaring him guilty.

I do not consider women a lower class than men. I believe in equality.

I also feel very strongly about this issue. And I also know people who have gone threw this experience. Also keep in mind that I was raped. Well a man cannot get raped in Maryland so I was just taken advantage of. On 2 different occasions. I know I am a guy so that’s must have meant that I wanted it. And let me assure you it I didn’t want to sleep with any of those women. Yet they all wanted me and gave me drinks till I gave in.